Guest host Kris Sims is joined by Brian Lilley to break down the difference between trade unions and government unions, why taxes hammer workers, and whether Mark Carney’s promised cuts are real.
I find it a bit of a threat when government union bosses are saying that services could be cut. Are they going to counsel those who do not lose their position to work slower? Those who want the if jobs should be showing that they can and will continue to carry their weight in the event that some employees are let go. Why would someone deliberately not work to their potential?
Common themes in government unions is "don't work yourself out of a job". That meant by working too hard and too fast the job would be done and you'd be laid off, as opposed to just being assigned something else to do. Well, a friend who worked at the local city outside workers was told all that on the job, but he pointed out that there used to be 500 workers and they did all the road paving in the city. That number went down to 110 to 150. Why? Because they worked themselves out of a job by being too slow, too inefficient, too costly, not good enough. So all the paving went private. Even one of the mayors who previously ran for the NDP and was really a communist realized how much he could save if he outsourced all kinds of things to private industry, and said as much. It was a wake up call for him.
Also, as that same friend pointed out. Why is it that those certain union workers are the only ones allowed to take that taxpayer money. Why can't other citizens bid on those services? There are companies that do water and sewage. Why can't their workers get secure work if they win contracts. All kinds of people can mow lawns, ballfields, soccer pitches. Others can plough roads. Why can't they put in bids? Competition should bring costs down, keep them down. But all kinds of people can get a shot at those taxpayer dollars, not just a few.
Take the "Way Back" machine, and you'll find that Unions were first created to protect productive, working people from corporate and institutional abuse that bordered on slavery. Unions were not without their faults, but they did serve a much-needed purpose.
Unions are not meant to enrich non-productive members of society such as CUPE. Employees whose sole purpose appears to be taking up space at the expense of those who do actual work. While, at the same time, guaranteeing them a job-for-life.
Unions for public employees is a bad idea. I mean, what's next? Politicians who get to name their own salary and receive multi-million dollar pensions after six years? C'mon, nobody would even believe that.
James Galbraith in his new book Entropy Economics postulates that in a Monopoly, Price goes to infinity.
Government is a monopoly. Hence Government spending will trend towards Infinity. Government Labour Unions / Bruaucracies are also a monopolies so will seek to increase thier budgets to infinity.
I believe in decentralization, because the only way to keep City Hall in check is for the citizens to be able to go 20 miles, and have a different City Hall. Otherwise the cost of city services will go to infinity.
I live in Calgary, so at a practical level, I would like to see much of what Calgary City Hall does be moved to the Community Association (That includes the ownership of the parks, libraries, fire stations, and schools.) Calgary City Hall should only be in charge of major infastructure, roads, sewers, and global planning. Everything else should be decided at the commuity level where we can understand it. This is especially import with the City Budget. As a citizen I need to be able to understand where my tax $$ are being spent.
Apply the same principle all the way up to the PMO, where the Prime MInister needs to be told that he / she has 375 MP's and they are thier staff. We need to do this, so that we can limit the Prime Minister to what they are actually able to do, as opposed to where we are now with the PMO making every decision about everything and doing a poor job of everything.
Government unions are anathema to the proposition of unions, there is no “profit” and good luck ever getting their claws out of the public purse. Once we had public sector unions in the US there was no impetus for the labor unions to perform. Who was on duty when the NAFTA treaty was set up to drain the blood of the working class out of American industry? Politician investing in China and hello Rust Belt. I have the impression it was never too hard to pay off a Union boss or offer him a job running a government union.
I am coming to the idea that maybe there should be a total freeze of all government spending for a year. NOT ONE DIME to more bullshit construction of new roads, housing or any other project that is not needed for emergency maintenance. Flush out the waste and pay down the debt priority one. Eliminate government positions including Federal MP by 50%. Abolish all unions paid from public purse and privatize all schools. Force every one of these institutions to perform their duties or die off due to competition for the service money.
firing 75% of all govt employees, and telling the Indians the gravy train is over, would pay down our debt in about 40 years. Not to sound negative, but Canada needs to redraw the borders and the east needs to claim bankruptcy...The Canadian experiment has failed, socialism does not work!
Brian, why are you saying things that some things could strengthen the lieberal party. Do you or anyone not see that they have already destroyed the country. Our debt is beyond recovery. They have been stealing from the west to keep you jerks in oinktario alive. Do you not see that the west have had more enough of the federal gangsterism. Con man is done. the west is cutting you clowns off. So all of you yap is totally useless.
My Union CUPE Local 416 is as corrupt & evil as any government, they have attackm, lied about me and broke many union based rules as they sleep in bed with the City of Toronto, between the two they break many laws but there's no one there to stop the criminals...!!!
You ask why the government is so corrupt, it's because our Constitution is toilet paper BS & we need a Peoples Constitution that gives us the power to hire & fire all government officials, why does no one talk about independent forensic yearly audits & investigations, strting from the illegal & hated pedophile Mulroney GST, there are two woman with proof of Mulroney and Pierre Trudeau molesting them when they were children, where is the report on that...!!!
If all MP's and Cabinet Minsters - plus the PM - were held to the same laws as the rest of us, along with the same penalties, our Parliament would be empty and our prisons full.
When I lived in Chile I paid 7% income tax. Add in the medical that I decided to purchase through insurance and I paid 10.5% total. Back in Canada as self-employed and using whatever right offs I could manage, which was never a lot, I could manage to get it down to about 28%. But that was without paying any property taxes or even heat and light and water with their attached taxes. And there are probably a few more things I'm not counting. But when you would compare what all this meant to your money in your pocket it was quite the difference as you can imagine.
Also any medical things from an Xray to getting a camera down your throat and stomach to have a look around were down the next day, not next month , 3 months, a year or two. Next day.
Also, I didn't seem to miss the government services. You didn't need them. Garbage was collected twice a week, like it used to here, sometimes seeing trucks out after midnight on a Saturday. Quite the change when I came back.
My wife is born and raised Canadian. She is now into 12 months of BS with the federal govt, trying to get her OAS? These people are so useless it is pathetic...I refuse to create a friendship with any govt employee. They suck more money from the tax payer then the Indians do! Useless, Indoctrinated, Brain Washed idiots, all of them. I have absolutely no use for any govt employee - Municipal, Provincial and Federal - only simple minds allow themselves to be brain washed.
Mine is still pending after 2 months. I wonder why? It should be pretty simple. I guess I may be looking at a year or so as well. Hope they pay interest on what they owe your wife!
A rather cruel synopsis. But I am afraid it has merit. It seems , in My opinion, that if You can not get a job in private industry , You certainly can get one with a government. Not all people but a vast majority. Yes We need a certain amount of government, but they Have long ago over stepped their boundaries.
I find it a bit of a threat when government union bosses are saying that services could be cut. Are they going to counsel those who do not lose their position to work slower? Those who want the if jobs should be showing that they can and will continue to carry their weight in the event that some employees are let go. Why would someone deliberately not work to their potential?
Common themes in government unions is "don't work yourself out of a job". That meant by working too hard and too fast the job would be done and you'd be laid off, as opposed to just being assigned something else to do. Well, a friend who worked at the local city outside workers was told all that on the job, but he pointed out that there used to be 500 workers and they did all the road paving in the city. That number went down to 110 to 150. Why? Because they worked themselves out of a job by being too slow, too inefficient, too costly, not good enough. So all the paving went private. Even one of the mayors who previously ran for the NDP and was really a communist realized how much he could save if he outsourced all kinds of things to private industry, and said as much. It was a wake up call for him.
Makes sense.
Also, as that same friend pointed out. Why is it that those certain union workers are the only ones allowed to take that taxpayer money. Why can't other citizens bid on those services? There are companies that do water and sewage. Why can't their workers get secure work if they win contracts. All kinds of people can mow lawns, ballfields, soccer pitches. Others can plough roads. Why can't they put in bids? Competition should bring costs down, keep them down. But all kinds of people can get a shot at those taxpayer dollars, not just a few.
Take the "Way Back" machine, and you'll find that Unions were first created to protect productive, working people from corporate and institutional abuse that bordered on slavery. Unions were not without their faults, but they did serve a much-needed purpose.
Unions are not meant to enrich non-productive members of society such as CUPE. Employees whose sole purpose appears to be taking up space at the expense of those who do actual work. While, at the same time, guaranteeing them a job-for-life.
Unions for public employees is a bad idea. I mean, what's next? Politicians who get to name their own salary and receive multi-million dollar pensions after six years? C'mon, nobody would even believe that.
Enough from the Grifters First Nation. Dig up or shut up
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James Galbraith in his new book Entropy Economics postulates that in a Monopoly, Price goes to infinity.
Government is a monopoly. Hence Government spending will trend towards Infinity. Government Labour Unions / Bruaucracies are also a monopolies so will seek to increase thier budgets to infinity.
I believe in decentralization, because the only way to keep City Hall in check is for the citizens to be able to go 20 miles, and have a different City Hall. Otherwise the cost of city services will go to infinity.
I live in Calgary, so at a practical level, I would like to see much of what Calgary City Hall does be moved to the Community Association (That includes the ownership of the parks, libraries, fire stations, and schools.) Calgary City Hall should only be in charge of major infastructure, roads, sewers, and global planning. Everything else should be decided at the commuity level where we can understand it. This is especially import with the City Budget. As a citizen I need to be able to understand where my tax $$ are being spent.
Apply the same principle all the way up to the PMO, where the Prime MInister needs to be told that he / she has 375 MP's and they are thier staff. We need to do this, so that we can limit the Prime Minister to what they are actually able to do, as opposed to where we are now with the PMO making every decision about everything and doing a poor job of everything.
An interesting idea. Thanks.
There is NOTHING Mark Carney could promise Canadians that is REAL! N O T H I N G!
Government unions are anathema to the proposition of unions, there is no “profit” and good luck ever getting their claws out of the public purse. Once we had public sector unions in the US there was no impetus for the labor unions to perform. Who was on duty when the NAFTA treaty was set up to drain the blood of the working class out of American industry? Politician investing in China and hello Rust Belt. I have the impression it was never too hard to pay off a Union boss or offer him a job running a government union.
All unions should be abolished. They are part of the countries' destruction.
Sorry, my union is corrupt because our Constitution is a piece toilet paper, we need trusted unions the we control not the criminals..!!!
I am coming to the idea that maybe there should be a total freeze of all government spending for a year. NOT ONE DIME to more bullshit construction of new roads, housing or any other project that is not needed for emergency maintenance. Flush out the waste and pay down the debt priority one. Eliminate government positions including Federal MP by 50%. Abolish all unions paid from public purse and privatize all schools. Force every one of these institutions to perform their duties or die off due to competition for the service money.
firing 75% of all govt employees, and telling the Indians the gravy train is over, would pay down our debt in about 40 years. Not to sound negative, but Canada needs to redraw the borders and the east needs to claim bankruptcy...The Canadian experiment has failed, socialism does not work!
Thank you for reporting the Truth! Canada needs a change in government!
Brian, why are you saying things that some things could strengthen the lieberal party. Do you or anyone not see that they have already destroyed the country. Our debt is beyond recovery. They have been stealing from the west to keep you jerks in oinktario alive. Do you not see that the west have had more enough of the federal gangsterism. Con man is done. the west is cutting you clowns off. So all of you yap is totally useless.
My Union CUPE Local 416 is as corrupt & evil as any government, they have attackm, lied about me and broke many union based rules as they sleep in bed with the City of Toronto, between the two they break many laws but there's no one there to stop the criminals...!!!
You ask why the government is so corrupt, it's because our Constitution is toilet paper BS & we need a Peoples Constitution that gives us the power to hire & fire all government officials, why does no one talk about independent forensic yearly audits & investigations, strting from the illegal & hated pedophile Mulroney GST, there are two woman with proof of Mulroney and Pierre Trudeau molesting them when they were children, where is the report on that...!!!
If all MP's and Cabinet Minsters - plus the PM - were held to the same laws as the rest of us, along with the same penalties, our Parliament would be empty and our prisons full.
When I lived in Chile I paid 7% income tax. Add in the medical that I decided to purchase through insurance and I paid 10.5% total. Back in Canada as self-employed and using whatever right offs I could manage, which was never a lot, I could manage to get it down to about 28%. But that was without paying any property taxes or even heat and light and water with their attached taxes. And there are probably a few more things I'm not counting. But when you would compare what all this meant to your money in your pocket it was quite the difference as you can imagine.
Also any medical things from an Xray to getting a camera down your throat and stomach to have a look around were down the next day, not next month , 3 months, a year or two. Next day.
Also, I didn't seem to miss the government services. You didn't need them. Garbage was collected twice a week, like it used to here, sometimes seeing trucks out after midnight on a Saturday. Quite the change when I came back.
My wife is born and raised Canadian. She is now into 12 months of BS with the federal govt, trying to get her OAS? These people are so useless it is pathetic...I refuse to create a friendship with any govt employee. They suck more money from the tax payer then the Indians do! Useless, Indoctrinated, Brain Washed idiots, all of them. I have absolutely no use for any govt employee - Municipal, Provincial and Federal - only simple minds allow themselves to be brain washed.
Mine is still pending after 2 months. I wonder why? It should be pretty simple. I guess I may be looking at a year or so as well. Hope they pay interest on what they owe your wife!
A rather cruel synopsis. But I am afraid it has merit. It seems , in My opinion, that if You can not get a job in private industry , You certainly can get one with a government. Not all people but a vast majority. Yes We need a certain amount of government, but they Have long ago over stepped their boundaries.