On today’s episode of The Candice Malcolm Show, Candice is joined by National Telegraph founder Wyatt Claypool to discuss what Pierre Poilievre could have done differently during his campaign, and how he can win next time.
Interesting analysis of the CPC loss. One thing that I struggle to understand is the "blame the boomers" thing. Mr. Claypool tosses out the "older white voters" assumption at the start of the video and it seems to be an accepted view across the board.
But I have my doubts for two reasons:
First, as an older adult, high among my concerns is the well-being of my adult children and their kids. Boomer's children and grandchildren are central to their lives. So this factors into voting decisions. How much, I don't know. However, the stereotype of the boomers only being only concerned with themselves is not the whole picture.
Second, despite the loss, the CPC vote was 41% and they significantly increased their seat count. If "older white voters" are responsible for the Liberal win, how does one account for those seats? Are there fewer boomers in all of the those ridings? While I don't know the age distribution, I find that hard to believe.
I could be completely wrong, of course. But "blame the boomers" is deeply divisive, so if it's not accurate, it should be abandoned.
Unfortunately, like it or not, most boomers (and especially women over 65) supported Liberal. I'm a female boomer and I travel in many circles and I can tell you that was the case. My husband and I are fierce Poilievre supporters but we were overwhelmingly in the minority with everyone we spoke with. The main Boomer comments I got were (a) look at Mark Carney's impressive resume (old people are easily swayed that way because we "trust" what is written down, while you'll find young people look beyond the resume because their experience is that a high percentage of resumes are false anyway - sad but true) and (b) women thought Poilievre was a rebel and his talk was too rough but Carney was worldly and he had a nice calm voice. You don't believe me? Again, sad but true. I couldn't believe it myself until I heard it over and over again. Yes, I believe the Boomers shoulder most of the blame for the Conservative defeat. In 4 years maybe a high percentage of them will be gone and I think you'll see different results.
That was my experience as well. My husband & I are also boomers & couldn't believe how many boomers were voting Liberal; some of whom were NDP'ers which explains some of what happened. But yes, Boomers aren't as "media savy" as they should be & don't make the effort to LEARN & do their due diligence. On another topic, it's likely why so many are so easily scammed!! Just sayin....
Pierre should have done what Trump did - go onto various podcasts, meet with independent media for interviews etc. Why he wanted to control his candidates is astonishing to me. Either they're Conservatives & like the policies or they're not & so if they can't be trusted to explain the policies, they shouldn't be running under the Conservative banner anyway.
Well getting older doesn't always make you wiser . His resume must have been written by his wife . A boomer should remember when he was the governor of the Bank of Canada and later to Britain in the same position . He was a disaster at both but the Conservatives saved us under Flaherty as finance minister . Carnage is also the one who has been directing Trudeau for 5 years or so . Now nothing he did was by accident . This is to bring the country down to where his people can take over all that we have and since we will have nothing we will have little recourse . His people are for the moment the WEF and China . They also helped him get elected as they did for Trudeau's elections . We have not been a true democracy since Trudeau was elected . I don't see any new elections being any different . I believe this was likely our last chance .
Speaking as a later-Boomer woman (65+) in Ottawa, who just spent the campaign working nearly full time for her local CPC candidate (who lost) I'd narrow the stereotype to "older white women voters, lacking so much brain function that they still watch CBC". I met a lot of savvy elders worried sick about their kids and grandkids' futures, who absolutely don't fit the "older white voters" stereotype, who basically got out and worked hard and voted hard for change. The line "We can't take another four years of this," came up regularly among the volunteers, along with comments about how they couldn't see how anyone in their right mind was still prepared to vote Liberal. But: we also kept hearing it from the front line door-knocking teams, that every time they hit areas where they had 'comfortable' retired folks sitting around in $2-3M homes in 'nice' areas, bam! they were running into the wall-to-wall stupidity of people praising Carney's CV without having done any due diligence regarding his lies about past roles and importance, no recognition of anything people in the UK (or as far afield as Peru) were saying, or his track record for over-the-top climate extremism, and for God's sake, his having been a primary advisor to Trudeau and his minions since 2020! Red flags all over the place, but it was just outside their cosy-minded 'everything is wonderful, lalalalala' attitudes, laced with TDS to the eyeballs.
So yeah, there's a lot of accuracy to it. BIG divides here.
The Conservative campaign focused on people who struggle, but neglected to appeal to the greater number of people/families that manage a balanced life. P. could have appealed to Canadians to be responsible citizens and support the CPC governing towards a flourishing democracy.
P. did mention 'woke' a few times but was silent on life issues holding a large segment of undecided voters from voting, I think.
You intimate that a leader's fate is largely determined by their handlers; that capitulation to his campaign 'advisors' was Poilievre's downfall. Agreed. However, why do you disparage the PPC
leader for being his own man, a strong leader with the integrity to follow his own beliefs and ethics
He did nothing wrong . Just the ignorance of too many Canadian voters and Chinese interference . His numbers were great and better than Ford who had less but won by a landslide while Pierre lost . Look as well to mail in ballots and who was working the polls . Trudeau never really won either but some how was PM .
Interesting analysis of the CPC loss. One thing that I struggle to understand is the "blame the boomers" thing. Mr. Claypool tosses out the "older white voters" assumption at the start of the video and it seems to be an accepted view across the board.
But I have my doubts for two reasons:
First, as an older adult, high among my concerns is the well-being of my adult children and their kids. Boomer's children and grandchildren are central to their lives. So this factors into voting decisions. How much, I don't know. However, the stereotype of the boomers only being only concerned with themselves is not the whole picture.
Second, despite the loss, the CPC vote was 41% and they significantly increased their seat count. If "older white voters" are responsible for the Liberal win, how does one account for those seats? Are there fewer boomers in all of the those ridings? While I don't know the age distribution, I find that hard to believe.
I could be completely wrong, of course. But "blame the boomers" is deeply divisive, so if it's not accurate, it should be abandoned.
Unfortunately, like it or not, most boomers (and especially women over 65) supported Liberal. I'm a female boomer and I travel in many circles and I can tell you that was the case. My husband and I are fierce Poilievre supporters but we were overwhelmingly in the minority with everyone we spoke with. The main Boomer comments I got were (a) look at Mark Carney's impressive resume (old people are easily swayed that way because we "trust" what is written down, while you'll find young people look beyond the resume because their experience is that a high percentage of resumes are false anyway - sad but true) and (b) women thought Poilievre was a rebel and his talk was too rough but Carney was worldly and he had a nice calm voice. You don't believe me? Again, sad but true. I couldn't believe it myself until I heard it over and over again. Yes, I believe the Boomers shoulder most of the blame for the Conservative defeat. In 4 years maybe a high percentage of them will be gone and I think you'll see different results.
That was my experience as well. My husband & I are also boomers & couldn't believe how many boomers were voting Liberal; some of whom were NDP'ers which explains some of what happened. But yes, Boomers aren't as "media savy" as they should be & don't make the effort to LEARN & do their due diligence. On another topic, it's likely why so many are so easily scammed!! Just sayin....
Well, your anecdote certainly matches the widespread view.
You're probably right, but my questions about age distribution in ridings the CPC won are still unanswered.
Pierre should have done what Trump did - go onto various podcasts, meet with independent media for interviews etc. Why he wanted to control his candidates is astonishing to me. Either they're Conservatives & like the policies or they're not & so if they can't be trusted to explain the policies, they shouldn't be running under the Conservative banner anyway.
Well getting older doesn't always make you wiser . His resume must have been written by his wife . A boomer should remember when he was the governor of the Bank of Canada and later to Britain in the same position . He was a disaster at both but the Conservatives saved us under Flaherty as finance minister . Carnage is also the one who has been directing Trudeau for 5 years or so . Now nothing he did was by accident . This is to bring the country down to where his people can take over all that we have and since we will have nothing we will have little recourse . His people are for the moment the WEF and China . They also helped him get elected as they did for Trudeau's elections . We have not been a true democracy since Trudeau was elected . I don't see any new elections being any different . I believe this was likely our last chance .
Speaking as a later-Boomer woman (65+) in Ottawa, who just spent the campaign working nearly full time for her local CPC candidate (who lost) I'd narrow the stereotype to "older white women voters, lacking so much brain function that they still watch CBC". I met a lot of savvy elders worried sick about their kids and grandkids' futures, who absolutely don't fit the "older white voters" stereotype, who basically got out and worked hard and voted hard for change. The line "We can't take another four years of this," came up regularly among the volunteers, along with comments about how they couldn't see how anyone in their right mind was still prepared to vote Liberal. But: we also kept hearing it from the front line door-knocking teams, that every time they hit areas where they had 'comfortable' retired folks sitting around in $2-3M homes in 'nice' areas, bam! they were running into the wall-to-wall stupidity of people praising Carney's CV without having done any due diligence regarding his lies about past roles and importance, no recognition of anything people in the UK (or as far afield as Peru) were saying, or his track record for over-the-top climate extremism, and for God's sake, his having been a primary advisor to Trudeau and his minions since 2020! Red flags all over the place, but it was just outside their cosy-minded 'everything is wonderful, lalalalala' attitudes, laced with TDS to the eyeballs.
So yeah, there's a lot of accuracy to it. BIG divides here.
The Conservative campaign focused on people who struggle, but neglected to appeal to the greater number of people/families that manage a balanced life. P. could have appealed to Canadians to be responsible citizens and support the CPC governing towards a flourishing democracy.
P. did mention 'woke' a few times but was silent on life issues holding a large segment of undecided voters from voting, I think.
You intimate that a leader's fate is largely determined by their handlers; that capitulation to his campaign 'advisors' was Poilievre's downfall. Agreed. However, why do you disparage the PPC
leader for being his own man, a strong leader with the integrity to follow his own beliefs and ethics
without surrendering to ill advice.
He did nothing wrong . Just the ignorance of too many Canadian voters and Chinese interference . His numbers were great and better than Ford who had less but won by a landslide while Pierre lost . Look as well to mail in ballots and who was working the polls . Trudeau never really won either but some how was PM .