The shocking story of a routine CBC hit-piece gone HORRIBLY WRONG
CBC thought it was doing a routine smear against a skeptic of the Residential School 'mass graves' narrative. Instead, CBC got out-witted and exposed. Read the play-by-play on how it all went down.
This is adapted from an X thread by Candice Malcolm.
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Meet Jordan Tucker, a former CBC reporter. This is her own profile picture – note the pride progress CBC logo. It’s too perfect.
Last Spring, Tucker attempted to do what CBC does everyday: push a woke activist agenda and pretend it’s real journalism.
Tucker interviewed Professor Frances Widdowson on April 1, 2024 for a hit piece. But what she didn’t expect is that Professor Widdowson RECORDED the conversation and posted it in its entirety on her Youtube in July 2025.
Here is a preview of the absolute TRAIN WRECK that unfolded.
Tucker: “I’m wondering why it’s so important to you to discredit this?”
Widdowson: “I believe in the truth, I think the truth is important. Do you think the truth is important?”
Tucker: “I’m going to ask… um… [long silence… no answer]
Widdowson: You should read Grave Error.
So, what is Grave Error?
Some background: About 18 months ago, I helped publish a book called Grave Error. It’s a collection of essays written by top university professors and journalists setting the historical record straight on Indian Residential Schools (IRS).
The schools had their problems, no doubt. But the hysteria & accusations – that teachers & nuns were murdering children, secretly burying them in mass graves, committing genocide – is completely, patently false.
Grave Error addresses the media deception surrounding the May 2021 unverified claim that 215 unmarked graves were discovered in Kamloops, B.C., and the moral panic that followed.
It’s a sober analysis of the facts.
Grave Error was edited by Dr. C.P. Champion & Dr. Tom Flanagan. It quickly became a Canadian best-seller, selling tens of thousands of copies despite being completely ignored by the legacy media.
Libraries across the country had months-long waiting lists to read it.
The TRUTH was finally getting out there.
But not everyone was happy about it. Woke activists labeled the book “hate literature” & “Residential School denialism.”
The NDP then introduced a bill to make “denialism” a crime in Canada. In an interview, MP Leah Gazan specifically cited Grave Error and its authors as an example of so-called denialism.
To recap: the media perpetuated at best massive deception and at worst a total hoax about unmarked graves at residential schools.
Canadians now have to repeat the lie that we committed "genocide" and if we refuse, it's a hate crime.
Mao would be jealous of 2025 Canada.
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In Maoist fashion, the city council in Quesnel, B.C. denounced Grave Error and censured the mayor – get this – because his wife read the book! The mayor was banned from visiting local Reserves.
(This is how the CBC covered it at the time)
Against this backdrop, Grave Error author Frances Widdowson was invited into the hornets nest to speak to Quesnel council. CBC assigned Jordan Tucker to interview her for a segment.
But as we all know, the CBC doesn’t do journalism. It is an unabashed propaganda machine.
Tucker personifies everything wrong with the woke left and with the modern CBC. The tape shows a whiney, thin-skinned, lazy and incompetent journalist who cannot hold a conversation, let alone conduct an interview or engage in thoughtful debate.
She is intellectually out-matched and woefully unprepared.
Even after it becomes very evident that Professor Widdowson is calm, collected, rational and right, Jordan Tucker continues to act self-righteous, indignant to any pushback and under the belief she is morally superior.
She obviously didn't think the full interview would ever see the light of day...
So let’s go through it.
Jordan Tucker implies and then insists that Frances is being paid or somehow profiting off her City Council appearance in Quesnel. She has zero evidence, so it’s a pure fishing expedition, which Frances easily dismisses.
Next, without a hint of irony, she asks Frances why people would exaggerate claims of abuse at IRS. The answer is obvious. Money.
Kamloops has received at least $7 million since they made these accusations. Widdowson says that the feds have spent a quarter of a billion dollars on related initiatives since the May 2021 announcement of unmarked graves.
Caught flat-footed, Tucker responds defiantly: “There's a lot of other ways to get $7 million.”
In one breath CBC accuses Frances of profiting – what, by making a few bucks per book sold? – and in the next breath, they dismiss the idea that a Band could be financially motivated by $7 million, all while taking $1.6B from Canadian taxpayers.
The levels of hypocrisy are truly impressive.
Next, Jordan Tucker makes an absurd claim that 6,000 bodies have been found at IRS.
Pardon?
Perhaps that's how many alleged soil disturbances have been picked up using Ground Penetrating Radar. But those are unproved allegations.
The truth is that zero, yes ZERO bodies have been found.
Here is the JAW-DROPPING exchange:
A journalist should know the difference between an allegation and real a crime. But, at the CBC, they don't.
Recall that CBC's chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton made the EXACT same embarrassing mistake on live television during the Federal Leader's debate.
The state broadcaster even issued a rare correction.
It's also odd that Tucker cited the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) Report as her source, since that report came out in 2015 – a good SIX YEARS before the 215 unmarked graves story in Kamloops. Also, the TRC report claims 3,200 children died in IRS from 1867 to 2000.
The CBC's incompetency knows no bounds.
Here is where things get really good.
Frances Widdowson, clearly exasperated by Jordan Tucker's ignorance and arrogance, tells her the truth.
“You are a seriously incompetent journalist”
100%
That's when Jordan Tucker basically bursts into tears and ends the interview.
You can listen to the entire phone interview on Frances Widdowson's Youtube page. It's well worth your time.
And if you're curious, THIS is how the same interview was presented to CBC's listening audience.
This is not journalism. It’s pure deception and hard woke activism.
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Candice Malcolm
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