Dr. Sylvain Charlebois says, "Farmers don’t need political theatre. They need access to markets. Ottawa’s duty is not to make gestures, but to make sense."
Sylvain tells it like it is. Nothing has changed with our federal government. Still incompetent, still ignoring anything resembling common sense, still picking winners and losers according to their own ideology. Pretty much sums up this country over the last ten years, with no relief in sight, and yet some feel content with our situation. This nightmare has to end sometime. Doesn't it?
Friend or not, they want to buy our Canola, then let's do it, we as a whole in Canada don't buy EV anyway, so let them bring in a cheap EV, who really cares as long as the trade is stabilized again.
true..but with China, going online is a security risk. Remember Justin saying..even before the 2015 "election"..."I've always admired China"..?..and here we are..
China is not an ally. They are quite hostile to the west. Learn about what they call the 100 Years of Humiliation. China sees the western world as an advisory. We ought to not be naive about that.
That is heresy , I want proof, please . Like if I start the ev and then this signal goes out and connects to the web. It is then recorded . Would not csis be on top of this , if it was so ? That would be espionage in My opinion.
Probably, but I would not put it past them. Look at all the technology secrets they have stolen . Espionage seems to be happening all around the world right now.
It is what is done to the info that is being collected. Meta collects data from you and finds that you like hot dogs so every time you enquire about food you are brought to NY Fries. China wants to know about who you are and what you are doing and if you are part of the Chinese diaspora and if they can put pressure on your family in China.
CSIS is ill equipt to deal with a super power like China.
Read about Nortel when they collaborated with Huawei and how they stole their tech and China subsidised Huawei and they put Nortel (a Canadian company) out of business with their own stolen tech.
Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
Any electronic component made in China (from computer chips to military equipment) is a security risk...Hell, I don't even trust Chinese food anymore!!
China's EV's aren't just about market access. These cars are mobile spy tech and they have remote access features that could reek havoc on our roads. That creates a serious national security threat. Think of the Trojan horse scenario here. Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
Im afraid of EV's and the fire hazard and unable to travel far without recharging - Carney is an idiot - acts and talks smart but is still following Justins outline. and policies
China's EV's aren't just about market access. These cars are mobile spy tech and they have remote access features that could reek havoc on our roads. That creates a serious national security threat. Think of the Trojan horse scenario here. Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
I gather that none of you in fear of security risks are farmers, and/or living in farming communities. No farmers = no food, or only food produced by big corporations, likely GMOs laced with glyphosate and other chemical poisons. What is the greater risk?
The bigger risk is these cars remotely running into critical infrastructure or used for espionage. Our farmers need our support certainly, and help finding alternative crop options. More local food distribution and more trade with allies.
China and Russia both buy oil from Iran. Russia buys it to keep the war against Ukraine going, so what's not to "like" right? China uses forced labour to make the garbage we buy from them. China removes and sells organs from living human beings. China imprisons anyone who dares question the Party. China executes prisoners by firing squad and sends the bill for the bullets to the next of kin. China spies on Chinese Canadian ex-pats and threatens to go after their relatives in China if they refuse to go along with interference in our nominations and electoral process. What's not to like about China?
They executed 4 Chinese nationals who held canadian citizenship. Hardly 4 canadians. And they were executed for drug smuggling. Do you gave any idea how big, invasive and deadly the Chinese fentynal epidemic is?
Yes,I absolutely do understand about Fenatnyl and how the Liberal government is enabling the Chinese gangs to manufacture and money launder in Canada …so F Liberals and F the chines druggie gangs
Then there's the money laundering operation, buying up farmland in P.E.I. using front-groups posing at Buddhists. Really bizarre since China has no respect for any religion except the religion of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao.
But notice lately the Canadian ambassador's are cozying up to China to reduce trade with the USA! Time to change - we do not have to agree on everything but Canola sales for our Farmers is vital and unless we can find many other markets - we will lose that advantage as well! Would rather buy a Chinese EV rather than Trumps EV's anyway
You would rather support a communist dictatorship with goals of global domination? Do you want to end liberal democracies forever? Or enjoy mass surveillance and famines.
It's the same Canadian cheap-skate mindset that looks the other way and continues to prop up the dictatorship in Cuba, because, hey, those all-inclusive "resorts" are a real bargain. Those places are run by the military in civilian clothes, and ordinary Cuban aren't allowed inside.
Where do you think there are still liberal democracies in the world??? Evidently not here or whatever shreds are left are not for long under this government. Mass surveillance is already being installed here and with the price of food being what it is, it's akin to a famine for too many people.
And just why do you think the western democracies are under such strain? Where do you think the subversion is rooted? We're not there yet, but we have a hard correction to make for sure. There is still hope.
WEF Klaus Schwabb: "What we are most proud of, is that we infiltrate cabinets". It's rot from the inside at the end of the globalists toward more and more control for One World Government. Economically we've had it good for many decades and maybe got too comfortable, and believe what we want to hear from those cabinets. It's a return to feudalism, even tyranny. What have you learned from the covid saga? Yes there is hope if there are enough people awake and willing to DO something about it, if even only "resist".
I'm aware. There is a large enough amount of Canadians who are knowledgeable of this interference now and more everyday. There is hope. I have seen over the years more and more people connecting the dots. It take time for the population to educate itself in the face of a huge effort to propagandize the people. Pain seems to be the best lesson.
That might change now that auto companies are moving to the states. Unless Corney can keep convincing his gullible followers that it's all trump's fault. It's not the tariffs it's that no one wants to invest in Canada and who's running it.
Fair enough. The only reason I can see is that the 'Others" are a bunch of venal, freak-arsed lap-mutts also...People always are calculating "Whatz in it fer me-me-me?".
I doubt Trudeau made the decision. He got his orders to bow out because he had become a liability to the globalists. Carney was mandated to come finish the job.
I don't care if china doesn't buy our canola, nor do I care about buying evs. Why are we even doing business with a communist country. Market canola else where, build our own evs, if you can sell them.
The farmers need to grow something else like....wheat for food. Canola is canada oil, made to lubricate machinery (which there is less of) and an unhealthy very bad oil to consume (let the chineese griw & consume their own poison)
What is canola oil? Canola oil is one of the healthiest cooking oils available, with zero trans fat and the lowest amount of saturated fat of all common cooking oils. And because canola oil is so versatile and affordable, it's ideal for making a wide range of healthy foods, both at home and on a commercial scale.
Canola is no good for high temperature, high pressure industrial applications. It can be a suitable alternative lubricant for chains or hinges and is used gor rust prevention.
I agree canola oil is a good cooking oil, etc. But there is a miss understanding about the title vegetable oil. The term is a general description of all cooking oils. That includes soybean oil, corn oil, sunflower oil, canola oil, and others. The term is used to disguise, or just generalize most oils.
I agree to diversify our agricultural production and indeed canola oil is the worst oil to consume. However if people want to buy what we produce, why should we refuse to sell? It's shooting ourselves in the foot. Now this government does not seem to know what its right hand is doing nor its left hand. They seem to focus on small niches instead of having a panoramic view... unless it's all planned this way.
Maybe China has finally realised that canola oil "designed as an industrial lubricant" maybe sbouldnt be fed to humans and it doesn't really hurt them. Canola and corn "farmers" have destroyed millions of acres of wetlands to plant plant plant for these globalist schemes run by lobbyist groups.
Just a word about those Chinese EVs. The Chinese overproduced and has lots full of them sitting for years. They tried to foist them off in Russia who after a short time rejected them saying they are poor quality. So why do we want them here???
Well Ontario's Ford says no way to allow Chinese EV into Canada and seeing as he's buddies with Carney he'll probably be successful resulting inthe east screwing the three priarie provinces with the Canola tariffs from China. Manitoba's NDP Kinew, the newest closet Liberal, has been silent.
About a dollar per bushel drop. Considering that the price was up at about $15 dollars a bushel about the highest price average for recent given years that's not much to worry over. What's far more important, why the hell are we dealing with a communist country. Trade should be banned on any communist country. There are other places to sell canola. Farmers are not looking into the places for alternative crops and markets. To me this is because it was easy selling without home work and a government pushed agenda. I don't feel very sorry for those farmers putting their eggs in one basket.
"Now it’s Canada’s turn to act — with reason, not rhetoric."
If it helps destroy Canada, Carney's Cabal will choose tons of rhetoric..and zero reason. He/ Justin..and the rest of the Cabal are just as wicked as the drug cartels..and must be treated as such.
Time to think about the Farmers - EV's are a ways away yet and I agree we cant eat them! Time for Ford to think about another province than his own support the Farmers!
Sylvain tells it like it is. Nothing has changed with our federal government. Still incompetent, still ignoring anything resembling common sense, still picking winners and losers according to their own ideology. Pretty much sums up this country over the last ten years, with no relief in sight, and yet some feel content with our situation. This nightmare has to end sometime. Doesn't it?
Nightmares usually end with some sudden shock.
When do you surmise the Murikan and Euro-peon rot started, respectively?
China IS NOT our friend.
FULL STOP!!!
That simple.
Beware.
Friend or not, they want to buy our Canola, then let's do it, we as a whole in Canada don't buy EV anyway, so let them bring in a cheap EV, who really cares as long as the trade is stabilized again.
We will be flooded with them and those EVs are a hazard. What about national security?
Let them in as no one is likely to buy them and get the grain moving. At worst we will have a larger stock for our EV recycling industry.
Security risk
true..but with China, going online is a security risk. Remember Justin saying..even before the 2015 "election"..."I've always admired China"..?..and here we are..
They need to be well checked to ensure the EV's are not walking magnets of information
They're very much spy tech.
That is exactly what they are, computers on wheels linked straight to the Central Committee of the CCP..
Well can somebody actually show Me where the security risk is . No words , but fact please. Not heresy but fact . Like being caught red handed !
It’s hidden in the computer. Used for spying and stopping the car.
Do you complain about that feature in cars made elsewhere at all? There are reports of cars made here doing that.
China is not an ally. They are quite hostile to the west. Learn about what they call the 100 Years of Humiliation. China sees the western world as an advisory. We ought to not be naive about that.
That is heresy , I want proof, please . Like if I start the ev and then this signal goes out and connects to the web. It is then recorded . Would not csis be on top of this , if it was so ? That would be espionage in My opinion.
Probably, but I would not put it past them. Look at all the technology secrets they have stolen . Espionage seems to be happening all around the world right now.
It is what is done to the info that is being collected. Meta collects data from you and finds that you like hot dogs so every time you enquire about food you are brought to NY Fries. China wants to know about who you are and what you are doing and if you are part of the Chinese diaspora and if they can put pressure on your family in China.
CSIS is ill equipt to deal with a super power like China.
Read about Nortel when they collaborated with Huawei and how they stole their tech and China subsidised Huawei and they put Nortel (a Canadian company) out of business with their own stolen tech.
Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
Any electronic component made in China (from computer chips to military equipment) is a security risk...Hell, I don't even trust Chinese food anymore!!
The food part I still like. Cause the end result always works. LOL
🤣
You should ask DND about the $50,000,000 or so they had to spend to debug their Kanata HQ. Even the toilet seats were bugged.
I do not know any thing about this "debug". Was it in the local news etc. ? May have missed this report.
This took place early in the first term of Prime Minister Chrétien in 1990's.
China's EV's aren't just about market access. These cars are mobile spy tech and they have remote access features that could reek havoc on our roads. That creates a serious national security threat. Think of the Trojan horse scenario here. Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
No flood if no-one is buying them and no demand.
How are they a hazard? Where your information?
And you gonna buy one?
No way! I’m afraid of EVs in a way because of the fire hazard.
But you know, Carney is still wanting to mandate EVs.
Im afraid of EV's and the fire hazard and unable to travel far without recharging - Carney is an idiot - acts and talks smart but is still following Justins outline. and policies
Rather the contrary. Justin was following Carney's outlines and policies.
Then where is the security risk to you?
And, why assume all us patriotic Canadians would buy one? We can give them access to a hostile market.
Because not all Canadians know the risks and yet we all share the roads.
Why would we even bother?
Don’t buy them!
Exactly.
China's EV's aren't just about market access. These cars are mobile spy tech and they have remote access features that could reek havoc on our roads. That creates a serious national security threat. Think of the Trojan horse scenario here. Remember when Rogers entire network when down for days and they said it was a "router problem", ya it was, all those routers were Huawei routers from China. Just so happens we were holding the Russian turbine for the Nord Steam pipeline at the time, and China buys Russian oil. Once we agreed to return the turbine Rogers came back online. Lets be smarter going forward.
I gather that none of you in fear of security risks are farmers, and/or living in farming communities. No farmers = no food, or only food produced by big corporations, likely GMOs laced with glyphosate and other chemical poisons. What is the greater risk?
The bigger risk is these cars remotely running into critical infrastructure or used for espionage. Our farmers need our support certainly, and help finding alternative crop options. More local food distribution and more trade with allies.
Espionage is already happening without these cars that nobody seems to want anyway.
We are not in elementary school. You don’t have to LIKE someone to do business with them!!
China and Russia both buy oil from Iran. Russia buys it to keep the war against Ukraine going, so what's not to "like" right? China uses forced labour to make the garbage we buy from them. China removes and sells organs from living human beings. China imprisons anyone who dares question the Party. China executes prisoners by firing squad and sends the bill for the bullets to the next of kin. China spies on Chinese Canadian ex-pats and threatens to go after their relatives in China if they refuse to go along with interference in our nominations and electoral process. What's not to like about China?
True
It's not about liking them.🤦🏻 It's about national security.
LOL. The Chinese recently executed 4 Canadians. Sorry . F them!
They executed 4 Chinese nationals who held canadian citizenship. Hardly 4 canadians. And they were executed for drug smuggling. Do you gave any idea how big, invasive and deadly the Chinese fentynal epidemic is?
Nah! F them.
Yes,I absolutely do understand about Fenatnyl and how the Liberal government is enabling the Chinese gangs to manufacture and money launder in Canada …so F Liberals and F the chines druggie gangs
Then there's the money laundering operation, buying up farmland in P.E.I. using front-groups posing at Buddhists. Really bizarre since China has no respect for any religion except the religion of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao.
Exactly, I think this was all a con by China
F lopsided, hyperbolic & retarded views voiced obnoxiously.
ya..but we tolerate you in spite of that..
Try telling THAT to the Two Michaels
But notice lately the Canadian ambassador's are cozying up to China to reduce trade with the USA! Time to change - we do not have to agree on everything but Canola sales for our Farmers is vital and unless we can find many other markets - we will lose that advantage as well! Would rather buy a Chinese EV rather than Trumps EV's anyway
You would rather support a communist dictatorship with goals of global domination? Do you want to end liberal democracies forever? Or enjoy mass surveillance and famines.
It's the same Canadian cheap-skate mindset that looks the other way and continues to prop up the dictatorship in Cuba, because, hey, those all-inclusive "resorts" are a real bargain. Those places are run by the military in civilian clothes, and ordinary Cuban aren't allowed inside.
Where do you think there are still liberal democracies in the world??? Evidently not here or whatever shreds are left are not for long under this government. Mass surveillance is already being installed here and with the price of food being what it is, it's akin to a famine for too many people.
And just why do you think the western democracies are under such strain? Where do you think the subversion is rooted? We're not there yet, but we have a hard correction to make for sure. There is still hope.
WEF Klaus Schwabb: "What we are most proud of, is that we infiltrate cabinets". It's rot from the inside at the end of the globalists toward more and more control for One World Government. Economically we've had it good for many decades and maybe got too comfortable, and believe what we want to hear from those cabinets. It's a return to feudalism, even tyranny. What have you learned from the covid saga? Yes there is hope if there are enough people awake and willing to DO something about it, if even only "resist".
I'm aware. There is a large enough amount of Canadians who are knowledgeable of this interference now and more everyday. There is hope. I have seen over the years more and more people connecting the dots. It take time for the population to educate itself in the face of a huge effort to propagandize the people. Pain seems to be the best lesson.
Please just read a history book.
The Libs redacted them all...
Sadly they keep trying, but some people still have real knowledge.
Ford MoCO's CEO agrees with this after buying his for "research purposes".
This "friend/ally/adversary/enemy" yapping is plain silly/childish !
Apparently, Mark Carney doesn't own stocks in canola or Chinese EVs.
Check Brookfield
Auto workers vote Liberal. Canola farmers vote Conservative. Ergo, those tariffs are here to stay.
And auto workers are in ontario the biggest voting base.
That might change now that auto companies are moving to the states. Unless Corney can keep convincing his gullible followers that it's all trump's fault. It's not the tariffs it's that no one wants to invest in Canada and who's running it.
Murikan corporations only invest in stock buybacks and other financialized schemes.
If that means they only invest in losers then they've come to the right place
I don’t know why the auto workers would be voting Liberal now!
Think harder and/or educate yourself.
I’m thinking hard but I can’t see one reason to vote Liberal
Fair enough. The only reason I can see is that the 'Others" are a bunch of venal, freak-arsed lap-mutts also...People always are calculating "Whatz in it fer me-me-me?".
Don't need the snarky remarks , Brendt..
They soon won't be anymore.
Except they are losing the manufacturers aka Stellantis so no jobs.
Great country leader this Prime Minister banker fool we're stuck with. Just another Trudeau making bizarre decisions ruining our once proud country.
I doubt Trudeau made the decision. He got his orders to bow out because he had become a liability to the globalists. Carney was mandated to come finish the job.
I don't care if china doesn't buy our canola, nor do I care about buying evs. Why are we even doing business with a communist country. Market canola else where, build our own evs, if you can sell them.
The farmers need to grow something else like....wheat for food. Canola is canada oil, made to lubricate machinery (which there is less of) and an unhealthy very bad oil to consume (let the chineese griw & consume their own poison)
What is canola oil? Canola oil is one of the healthiest cooking oils available, with zero trans fat and the lowest amount of saturated fat of all common cooking oils. And because canola oil is so versatile and affordable, it's ideal for making a wide range of healthy foods, both at home and on a commercial scale.
And i bet you eat heart healthy Becel 😂
organic please
It’s a seed oil.Not good.
Canola is no good for high temperature, high pressure industrial applications. It can be a suitable alternative lubricant for chains or hinges and is used gor rust prevention.
Canola oil is one of the better oils; vegetable oil is a lot worse than Canola oil.
I agree canola oil is a good cooking oil, etc. But there is a miss understanding about the title vegetable oil. The term is a general description of all cooking oils. That includes soybean oil, corn oil, sunflower oil, canola oil, and others. The term is used to disguise, or just generalize most oils.
We do need to have our farmers grow for domestic and allied consumption and alternate crops seasonally, and reduce canola. Wheat, barley and oats.
Farmers grow food, they don't politicize their crops.
I agree to diversify our agricultural production and indeed canola oil is the worst oil to consume. However if people want to buy what we produce, why should we refuse to sell? It's shooting ourselves in the foot. Now this government does not seem to know what its right hand is doing nor its left hand. They seem to focus on small niches instead of having a panoramic view... unless it's all planned this way.
Heads up ! There might be a Red under your bed! Unknot your knickers so you can chase that there commie.
Maybe you should volunteer to market our canola elsewhere.
Maybe China has finally realised that canola oil "designed as an industrial lubricant" maybe sbouldnt be fed to humans and it doesn't really hurt them. Canola and corn "farmers" have destroyed millions of acres of wetlands to plant plant plant for these globalist schemes run by lobbyist groups.
Farmers have been drawn in close to do the "kings" bidding and don't want the pain of transitioning to a better crop. That is how slave capture works.
I feel for the farmers out west but in this case concede nothing to the Chinese . Absolutely nothing, they are a threat to this nation FULLSTOP
That's stupidly fantastic - FULLSTOP !
One nice thing about a democratic country , you may express your without fear of repercussions. PRC does not provide that just re-education.
Calling the West/Canada “democratic” will get you in an endless dialogue with a multitude of participants.
OK, agreed. We’re talking biz and industrial policy here, though.
Just a word about those Chinese EVs. The Chinese overproduced and has lots full of them sitting for years. They tried to foist them off in Russia who after a short time rejected them saying they are poor quality. So why do we want them here???
Get a clue. Research the FordMoCO CEO and his feelings towards his Chinese EV.
Carney is a complete and utter disaster, as we have been warned about. He fails at everything he touches.
Telegraph published that Canada is about to find our that Carney is the man with the reverse Midas touch
https://www.tiktok.com/@zakashley58/video/7547730168262036744?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
https://www.tiktok.com/@mydadisbiggerthanyourdad/video/7543428976044297490?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Good luck expecting reason from the liberal government. Not enough farmers vote liberal so who in government cares.
Subject: Let gas and diesel vehicles be
Date: October 19, 2025
To: infovehiculeetmoteur-vehicleandengineinfo@ec.gc.ca
Cc: mark.carney@parl.gc.ca, info@pco-bcp.gc.ca, Marie-France.Lalonde@parl.gc.ca
Let’s not engage with unreliable and expensive ideas that make Canadians lab rats and that they can’t afford.
Let’s be real, gas and diesel will be necessary for a long time yet, despite false beliefs by activists about misunderstood climate change.
Don’t get intimidated by misinformed and egoistic environmentalists.
Seriously,
X
Peace, Order and Good Government
Well Ontario's Ford says no way to allow Chinese EV into Canada and seeing as he's buddies with Carney he'll probably be successful resulting inthe east screwing the three priarie provinces with the Canola tariffs from China. Manitoba's NDP Kinew, the newest closet Liberal, has been silent.
About a dollar per bushel drop. Considering that the price was up at about $15 dollars a bushel about the highest price average for recent given years that's not much to worry over. What's far more important, why the hell are we dealing with a communist country. Trade should be banned on any communist country. There are other places to sell canola. Farmers are not looking into the places for alternative crops and markets. To me this is because it was easy selling without home work and a government pushed agenda. I don't feel very sorry for those farmers putting their eggs in one basket.
"Now it’s Canada’s turn to act — with reason, not rhetoric."
If it helps destroy Canada, Carney's Cabal will choose tons of rhetoric..and zero reason. He/ Justin..and the rest of the Cabal are just as wicked as the drug cartels..and must be treated as such.
Time to think about the Farmers - EV's are a ways away yet and I agree we cant eat them! Time for Ford to think about another province than his own support the Farmers!