Manitoba NDP Premier Wab Kinew refrained from signing a new interprovincial trade agreement between Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Ontario, citing the need for Indigenous consensus.
Kinew is not doing this out of any virtue; he is doing this because this is how indigenous politicians negotiate; everything the hard way.
I believe it is high time we involved indigenous communities more, but it is going to be one rough road. I spent 6 years working in indigenous communities in a position that involved negotiation. Many of them just don't understand reasonable, many of their politicians are corrupt, and there is no trust.
But we can't go on the way we have been. They have to learn reasonable, they have to rein in their corrupt politicians (the federal governments over the decades bear the responsibility for this sorry state of affairs), and they have to learn to trust.
Then, maybe, can be break free of this horrid system that keeps indigenous communities in poverty despite untold billions poured into the communities. Then, maybe, can we interact with each other human being to human being and forget all this animosity.
You are are blissfully unaware of the scam that is 'consultation' - it's always more, more, more. Negotiations are NOT done to benefit the people of the Tribes; just the chief(s) and their families. Thanks to Trudeau ditching accountability legislation, this whole 'consultation' is nothing more than legalized bribery to be paid if anyone not Native wants to try and make the world better by providing jobs and paying taxes. Boo!
To not decide is to decide. "Can't" most always translates to: "Don't want to."
Politicians are "selected" people-pleasing Pinocchios; the real power lies with unelected mid-witted technocrats influenced by special interest groups and lobbyists.
Bureaucracies have degenerated into self-serving entities. Voters still haven't figured out that they're just pawns in a high-stakes game of chess being played by the Overlords - The Empire, the Church and the "City" of London.
If the chiefs are corrupt and taking the taxpayer money for themselves, maybe the chiefs should be arrested and tried with an all indigenous jury and magistrate.
If any non-aboriginal politician did what many of them do, he would be in jail in a heartbeat. When they get elected, they fire everyone and hire family and friends. They funnel money to friends and family while withholding money from rivals, they take program money and put on sham programs just to get the funds.
Yes, I think the indigenous peoples would fare better under provincial jurisdiction because they're closer to government & would be able to hold everyone more accountable. At least I would hope so.
This is all BS - millions of $$ have been dis pursed to indigenous communities and their corrupt leaders pocket it all - they are in the same greed category as the Liberals and NDP - NDP lost a lot this past election adding they keep it up they will lose more - it is time to stop this BS and unite Canada and utilize our natural resources so we are NOT relying on the USA all the time - there is also nothing wrong with working with the USA either but these NDP/Liberal run provinces better stand aside and get with the rest of the provinces and the citizens
Can't disagree with anything you said. Maybe a different take, is this really ALL about indigenous rights or is a lot of it just another road block to throw up in the way of.........?
Maybe band members should start asking their leaders where the millions of dollars have gone that has been given them. If they are going to stop economy building projects, then they should not receive any federal or provincial tax dollars
You’d think they would. They don’t allow outshot do work. I know a few different industries that basically have gotten told leave the materials and they’d look after it. It’s a shame and crooked in my opinion
I'm thinking that the band members have been shoved aside for so long, they're not confident enough to challenge their leadership. That's why an outside firm needs to do an audit of each band to find out where the money went & who is responsible for the spending. Then, get all the band members together to explain exactly what has been going on & why they're still so poor when the leadership is so wealthy. Prosecutions should be forthcoming.
No money should be given to indigenous communities without a clear audit and what/where it is being used - so many are still living in poverty every it’s a disgrace given the billions they have received - NO MORE
Question, how did these unelected people get to have the final say in what our country can and cannot do? I find it irritating at the least that everything gets stalled in the name of "reconciliation".
Wait for it. Canada has signed on to the W.H.O. which means if they declare a pandemic (whether there's one or not) and we're going to have to follow whatever they say. Our government will have no control over whatever is deemed necessary. So, this is only one of many issues that the Liberals have foisted on us to ensure control over everything we do.
Indian Affairs should be abolished & so should "reserves." I think we need to allow these people to do what is in their best interests & get out of their way. But first, we need to hold the leadership to account & charge them if necessary.
The elbows up scam pushed by Liberals and their bought and paid for media is on the same level as the covid scam pushed by the same group. Canadians now have Canadian legacy media pushing elbows up, covid scam, attacks on Freedom Convoy 2022, Trump/Russia, Trump/Ukraine, etc. etc. The people that continue to watch legacy media should not be allowed to vote.
Well that was another waste of time Carney meets with Premiers. More window dressing for the elbows up crowd that got badly scammed in the last election. News today no tariff agreement until who knows when as elbows up Carney is proving daily that his interest is not with Canada but with the CCP and his American investments. No energy corridor, no pipelines, no tariff agreement, a big pile of coral cookies.
I was under the impression he was a "reasonable" man. I would have thought that after consultation with the indigenous people that things would go forward from there. Am I wrong?
Just another stall tactic. 20 years more of studies to study more. He kinew it. ….. NDP will do nothing and Manitoba will starve. :Just leave Alberta and Saskatchewan you’ll be better off
Yup. Preceded by, “We are stewards of the land and we have some environmental concerns about this project” as they simultaneously extend their hand - palm up.
Why, why do the majority always suffer because of the minority? As I have said many times, the western separation should start at the Sask./Man. border...we do not need any more Indian problems in the west, BC has enough of their own to deal with because the NDP follows the UN directive...Another reason why I have always stated, "Northern BC", Vancouver and Vancouver Island is a cesspool for bleeding heart Liberals! Of course their are nay-sayers in Northern BC, but they are not the majority. We want our Natural resources marketed globally, we have them and we can capitalize with them...Another problem with western separation is Edmonton and Calgary, they are no different from Vancouver and Victoria. Western separation will be difficult at best, but we can succeed if we push hard for Sask./AB/Northern BC, with the US likely encouraging the West to take the Yukon as well to help with the lower 48 access to Alaska. I do not want to become the 51st state, but I do want to repair our relationship with the US. The liberals are on board with the globalist (WEF, UN, WHO, EU, British Monarchy) to tear down the USD as the worlds reserve currency. I do not want to be part of this plot against the USA!
Just a small correction - Edmonton is more like Victoria o Vancouver, Calgary not so much. I live in Edmonton, and I'm frustrated at the uninformed who refuse to become informed. Mind you, it's the Provincial capital so most of the government workers & University Professors are Leftists & NDP supporters. Even the city council is astonishingly bad!! For whatever reason, Calgary's city council is also atrocious, but Calgarians remain strong Conservatives. I don't get the dichotomy of that.
While I tend to agree with most of what you say, I do not agree with your perception of Calgary...I watched the Calgary City Police through the scamdemic , I see one woke municipal govt after another in Calgary. I cannot wrap my head around the statement, Calgarians are mostly Conservative"...I live in northern BC and have many relatives in Vancouver, and they say the same for Vancouver, I do not not agree. All major cities in Canada are woke/leftist/liberals, because of the Chinese influence, WEF, UN, WHO, Federal Liberals and the landing spot for the majority of immigrants! The corruption on the left across Canada is more then most could fathom. I truly hope I am wrong, but my gut, my common sense and witnessing our recent history ( the past 2 - 3 decades) proves me right! I would also like to add, Canada's biggest offenders against our democracies are our municipal govt's, I see the same corruption and wokeness in Prince George municipal govt as well.
You are absolutely right about Calgary, Angela. I've lived in Calgary for about 30 yrs and before that in Edmonton for the same amount of time, and Calgary is definitely more conservative. And yes, our current mayor and council suck, but are extremely unpopular and will surely be ousted in the upcoming fall election!
Sounds like all the southern BC voters, and guess what, we have the NDP once again...Calgary and Edmonton are both full of bleeding heart Liberals, they walk the same line as Vancouver, Victoria, Toronto, Ottawa, Mississauga, Brampton, Hamilton and the GTA, Montreal, Quebec City, Halifax, Charlottetown and Fredericton. I am on Alberta's side, but with these two cities, any form of Alberta's freedom will not ever come to be!
Seems we supply the money to be dictated by the Indigenous leaders. Well when the well runs dry maybe we can manage what our woke leaders have given away. We need to wake up and take control of the management of this country.
Canada is a slow moving catastrophe, its flood of ever increasing government employees, ever increasing foreigners, ever increasing red ink. It is going gradually now, but soon it will be a crash all of the sudden. Canadians have figured out every way to drag the country down. Aboriginal Supremacy is one of the stupider ones.
Kinew is not doing this out of any virtue; he is doing this because this is how indigenous politicians negotiate; everything the hard way.
I believe it is high time we involved indigenous communities more, but it is going to be one rough road. I spent 6 years working in indigenous communities in a position that involved negotiation. Many of them just don't understand reasonable, many of their politicians are corrupt, and there is no trust.
But we can't go on the way we have been. They have to learn reasonable, they have to rein in their corrupt politicians (the federal governments over the decades bear the responsibility for this sorry state of affairs), and they have to learn to trust.
Then, maybe, can be break free of this horrid system that keeps indigenous communities in poverty despite untold billions poured into the communities. Then, maybe, can we interact with each other human being to human being and forget all this animosity.
But the road will be rough.
You are are blissfully unaware of the scam that is 'consultation' - it's always more, more, more. Negotiations are NOT done to benefit the people of the Tribes; just the chief(s) and their families. Thanks to Trudeau ditching accountability legislation, this whole 'consultation' is nothing more than legalized bribery to be paid if anyone not Native wants to try and make the world better by providing jobs and paying taxes. Boo!
So, if I understand correctly, what you're saying is that you never even read my comment
To not decide is to decide. "Can't" most always translates to: "Don't want to."
Politicians are "selected" people-pleasing Pinocchios; the real power lies with unelected mid-witted technocrats influenced by special interest groups and lobbyists.
Bureaucracies have degenerated into self-serving entities. Voters still haven't figured out that they're just pawns in a high-stakes game of chess being played by the Overlords - The Empire, the Church and the "City" of London.
Not sure how the Church belongs in your list.
Nailed it!
They get more money and rights than a white man.
Doesn't everyone in our DEI world?
Now that’s the truth!!! 👍
If the chiefs are corrupt and taking the taxpayer money for themselves, maybe the chiefs should be arrested and tried with an all indigenous jury and magistrate.
If any non-aboriginal politician did what many of them do, he would be in jail in a heartbeat. When they get elected, they fire everyone and hire family and friends. They funnel money to friends and family while withholding money from rivals, they take program money and put on sham programs just to get the funds.
I could go on. yes, many should be in jail.
...and off to a healing lodge.
The Indian Agency in Canada is part of the Palace scheme to further Divide and Rule the 13 Colonies (AKA Canada).
Not worth the time. They’re too greedy
What is to be expected from an ndp/liberal, more BS. Alberta, and if they want Saskatchewan, needs to leave, NOW
Yes, I think the indigenous peoples would fare better under provincial jurisdiction because they're closer to government & would be able to hold everyone more accountable. At least I would hope so.
...before Carnage plays the E Act card.
He won’t do that, not for this.
This is what he wants. This and Quebec to squash anything that’s left over.
Tie it up in negotiations and corruption. He looks the hero all the time feigning disappointment.
Oh liberal Canadians what have you done.
This is all BS - millions of $$ have been dis pursed to indigenous communities and their corrupt leaders pocket it all - they are in the same greed category as the Liberals and NDP - NDP lost a lot this past election adding they keep it up they will lose more - it is time to stop this BS and unite Canada and utilize our natural resources so we are NOT relying on the USA all the time - there is also nothing wrong with working with the USA either but these NDP/Liberal run provinces better stand aside and get with the rest of the provinces and the citizens
Can't disagree with anything you said. Maybe a different take, is this really ALL about indigenous rights or is a lot of it just another road block to throw up in the way of.........?
More evil headed our way / all distractions as they continue their dirty deeds
Maybe band members should start asking their leaders where the millions of dollars have gone that has been given them. If they are going to stop economy building projects, then they should not receive any federal or provincial tax dollars
Can they not fix their own drinking water with the billions Ottawa gives them?
You’d think they would. They don’t allow outshot do work. I know a few different industries that basically have gotten told leave the materials and they’d look after it. It’s a shame and crooked in my opinion
I'm thinking that the band members have been shoved aside for so long, they're not confident enough to challenge their leadership. That's why an outside firm needs to do an audit of each band to find out where the money went & who is responsible for the spending. Then, get all the band members together to explain exactly what has been going on & why they're still so poor when the leadership is so wealthy. Prosecutions should be forthcoming.
Trudeau got rid of that audit as soon as he became PM. He wanted them to like him I guess. A fools game.
No money should be given to indigenous communities without a clear audit and what/where it is being used - so many are still living in poverty every it’s a disgrace given the billions they have received - NO MORE
Question, how did these unelected people get to have the final say in what our country can and cannot do? I find it irritating at the least that everything gets stalled in the name of "reconciliation".
Wait for it. Canada has signed on to the W.H.O. which means if they declare a pandemic (whether there's one or not) and we're going to have to follow whatever they say. Our government will have no control over whatever is deemed necessary. So, this is only one of many issues that the Liberals have foisted on us to ensure control over everything we do.
Indian Affairs should be abolished & so should "reserves." I think we need to allow these people to do what is in their best interests & get out of their way. But first, we need to hold the leadership to account & charge them if necessary.
No one in Canada is elected now. They are selected, promoted or appointed.
Yes I agree however you did understand my point, no?
Sorry Angela! I totally agree with your post. I thought that went without saying but I should have said.
I will add that the 'reserve' system is a sinister move to fragment the tribes forever and was designed to do that.
Whenever Trudeau said "Our Diversity is our Strength" he was cynically thinking that "Their Diversity is MY strength."
The Palace, which promotes and appoints dirty creeps like Trudeau and Dr Meat, is masterful at one policy: Division.
The elbows up scam pushed by Liberals and their bought and paid for media is on the same level as the covid scam pushed by the same group. Canadians now have Canadian legacy media pushing elbows up, covid scam, attacks on Freedom Convoy 2022, Trump/Russia, Trump/Ukraine, etc. etc. The people that continue to watch legacy media should not be allowed to vote.
The LPC has a penchant for decreeing what voters decry.
Well that was another waste of time Carney meets with Premiers. More window dressing for the elbows up crowd that got badly scammed in the last election. News today no tariff agreement until who knows when as elbows up Carney is proving daily that his interest is not with Canada but with the CCP and his American investments. No energy corridor, no pipelines, no tariff agreement, a big pile of coral cookies.
Kinew is not protecting anyone by doing this, especially the indigenous.
But he is keeping to door open for the Aboriginal Industry to make a show of demands and more $$.
I was under the impression he was a "reasonable" man. I would have thought that after consultation with the indigenous people that things would go forward from there. Am I wrong?
He is in it for himself and no one else. The man is a complete scam.
Just another stall tactic. 20 years more of studies to study more. He kinew it. ….. NDP will do nothing and Manitoba will starve. :Just leave Alberta and Saskatchewan you’ll be better off
I'm sure he's going to be doing ok. The rest of us not so much!
Those studies is where they steal our tax dollars - this BS needs to 🛑
It would seem that the 80% of Manitobans who are not native do not get to have any input.
What can you expect from an indian nation who is represented by an ndp group. They will do as always pound their tom-toms a cry for more hand outs.
Yup. Preceded by, “We are stewards of the land and we have some environmental concerns about this project” as they simultaneously extend their hand - palm up.
Defund the Indigenous
Defunding Oddawa would be far more useful.
Why, why do the majority always suffer because of the minority? As I have said many times, the western separation should start at the Sask./Man. border...we do not need any more Indian problems in the west, BC has enough of their own to deal with because the NDP follows the UN directive...Another reason why I have always stated, "Northern BC", Vancouver and Vancouver Island is a cesspool for bleeding heart Liberals! Of course their are nay-sayers in Northern BC, but they are not the majority. We want our Natural resources marketed globally, we have them and we can capitalize with them...Another problem with western separation is Edmonton and Calgary, they are no different from Vancouver and Victoria. Western separation will be difficult at best, but we can succeed if we push hard for Sask./AB/Northern BC, with the US likely encouraging the West to take the Yukon as well to help with the lower 48 access to Alaska. I do not want to become the 51st state, but I do want to repair our relationship with the US. The liberals are on board with the globalist (WEF, UN, WHO, EU, British Monarchy) to tear down the USD as the worlds reserve currency. I do not want to be part of this plot against the USA!
Just a small correction - Edmonton is more like Victoria o Vancouver, Calgary not so much. I live in Edmonton, and I'm frustrated at the uninformed who refuse to become informed. Mind you, it's the Provincial capital so most of the government workers & University Professors are Leftists & NDP supporters. Even the city council is astonishingly bad!! For whatever reason, Calgary's city council is also atrocious, but Calgarians remain strong Conservatives. I don't get the dichotomy of that.
While I tend to agree with most of what you say, I do not agree with your perception of Calgary...I watched the Calgary City Police through the scamdemic , I see one woke municipal govt after another in Calgary. I cannot wrap my head around the statement, Calgarians are mostly Conservative"...I live in northern BC and have many relatives in Vancouver, and they say the same for Vancouver, I do not not agree. All major cities in Canada are woke/leftist/liberals, because of the Chinese influence, WEF, UN, WHO, Federal Liberals and the landing spot for the majority of immigrants! The corruption on the left across Canada is more then most could fathom. I truly hope I am wrong, but my gut, my common sense and witnessing our recent history ( the past 2 - 3 decades) proves me right! I would also like to add, Canada's biggest offenders against our democracies are our municipal govt's, I see the same corruption and wokeness in Prince George municipal govt as well.
You are absolutely right about Calgary, Angela. I've lived in Calgary for about 30 yrs and before that in Edmonton for the same amount of time, and Calgary is definitely more conservative. And yes, our current mayor and council suck, but are extremely unpopular and will surely be ousted in the upcoming fall election!
Sounds like all the southern BC voters, and guess what, we have the NDP once again...Calgary and Edmonton are both full of bleeding heart Liberals, they walk the same line as Vancouver, Victoria, Toronto, Ottawa, Mississauga, Brampton, Hamilton and the GTA, Montreal, Quebec City, Halifax, Charlottetown and Fredericton. I am on Alberta's side, but with these two cities, any form of Alberta's freedom will not ever come to be!
I agree with you 💯 on that - we need to fix our USA relationship and fast -
Seems we supply the money to be dictated by the Indigenous leaders. Well when the well runs dry maybe we can manage what our woke leaders have given away. We need to wake up and take control of the management of this country.
Apparently, we're too comfortable & don't see the need. Well, if we do nothing in the next 3 - 5 years, we'll regret being so apathetic.
Canada is a slow moving catastrophe, its flood of ever increasing government employees, ever increasing foreigners, ever increasing red ink. It is going gradually now, but soon it will be a crash all of the sudden. Canadians have figured out every way to drag the country down. Aboriginal Supremacy is one of the stupider ones.
Absolutely. Well-put!
Idiot you elected. Taxpayer extortionist.
Oh What. A dip premier letting Ideology get ahead of his Mouth again. I'm SHOCKED