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John S.'s avatar

Well, unless a new or improved process of making steel is invented, the need for metallurgical coal (coke) will continue to rise since it is needed to make steel from pig iron. And since the demand for steel will continue to rise as nations continue to develop, so will the need for coke. Mind you, China has discovered it makes sub-standard steel, creating a problem for the construction of warships and other engines of war. So they have started “mining” sunken WWII ships for their high quality steel.

Don's avatar

Agreed..when working in the oilsands, many pipefitters were bitching about the cheap metal used on the Oilsands infrastructure..including pipelines..they cautioned that pipelines built with that crap and transporting raw bitumen were gonna have massive problems with wear and tear in a very short time..

Kim Morton's avatar

The mining pre WW2 ships is because their steel has not been contaminated by nuclear fallout. This is important for some scientific instruments. Everything post 1945 is contaminated.

Franz Kafka's avatar

Did you know that the Ukrainians, against all rules, sold the scrap metal from Chernobyl into the global market? They simply redid the paper-work of provenance and declared the radioactive stuff fit for purpose. It is probably in your car and coffeemaker.

Don's avatar

..and microwaves/ furnaces/ stoves/ tools..can't see any issues there!!??..CSA approved MY ASS!!!

John S.'s avatar

Hmmm, thanks for that bit of info. Will pursue further.

Kim Morton's avatar

I got this from a business report quite a while ago. I thought it was common knowledge.

John S.'s avatar

Apparently not. Although Wikipedia, if it can be believed, states that background anthropogenic background radiation is now so low that it can be discounted except perhaps for the most sensitive of instruments especially those used in space. There are those of the opinion that “In cases where World War II–era shipwrecks in and near the relatively shallow Java Sea and western South China Sea have been illegally scavenged, [though] it has been suggested that the target is low-background steel.[10] Andrew Brockman, a maritime crime researcher and archaeologist, argues that conventional salvage is more likely.[6]” Wikipedia.

Paul T.'s avatar

Do NOT believe Wikipedia! Most of their contributors are biased leftist liars.

John S.'s avatar

Well, I did start my comment with a caveat cause I do agree with your comment.

Anthony Tasker's avatar

Wow...never heard that before

Paul's avatar

All successful economies run off of energy. The cheaper the energy, the better the economy. Just look at the failure of Germany's economy. Two consecutive years of Recession with plant closures, companies moving to countries with cheap energy and massive unemployment has destroyed Germany's economy. Cheap energy is the reason why China is eating everybody's lunch when it comes to manufacturing. Good luck Canada, you are failing too.

Franz Kafka's avatar

Blowing up their own gas pipe-line was an expensive case of virtue-signalling and ass-licking at the same time. Germany is a dumpster fire (their only source of heat) and they now want nothing more than a WW3-style re-match with Russia to reduce their unemployment figures. Good idea. eh? The last time worked out so well for them.

JosephPhallis's avatar

In a power grid, thermal power plants like Coal and Natural Gas are useful for their ability to respond quickly to demand changes, unlike Wind and Solar Energy. Spain recently had major grid outages due to their inability to respond to electricity demand. The "Green Freaks" make a mess with their Idealistic Obsessions...

Steve Vasseur's avatar

Go green, green, green, green is the joke of the century. Pros and cons are mostly cons against green. Another NWO money grab along with more population control, ho, ho, ho. 8 billion on earth who could all be located physically into Jackson county Florida, hmm, statistics again.

Dan C~~~~~~~~~'s avatar

Wonderful news! Coal is a gift from God. As a former Albertan I was dismayed and angry that the NDP decided to shut down the huge reserves of coal in Alberta that powered so much of the province. I think/hope the current government is reversing this stupidity.

Mike Robinson's avatar

LOL! Stick a big lump of that coal in Carney's Christmas stocking, if he even possesses one!

Franz Kafka's avatar

rotflmfao! Did Blackface Trudeau have anything to do with this?

Kim Morton's avatar

Funny(not) how reality never seems to align with the accepted story line.

Melvyn Schobel's avatar

When you have close to 10 billion people worldwide, energy is a must. Is it possible to have a clean energy supply the entire world? How do you think India and China would survive without coal? Each one of these countries has over a billion people in its population, requiring a huge amount of energy. At the rate we are going, will we ever be able to supply clean energy worldwide? The population continues to grow, so we have to look at climate change from a new perspective.

Kim Morton's avatar

This is why the cutting emissions to pre whatever the plan is today is destined to fail. We cannot cut pollution and look after ever more people at the same time. If the greenies had taken economics and science in school instead of basket weaving and dead language studies, they would know this.

Connie Clifford's avatar

They need something to supply power to the ai.

Paul T.'s avatar

Who is using all this coal anyway? Oh, that's right, China. And who else? Germany, who closed down 7 non-carbon emitting nuclear plants.

Warretheth's avatar

the best carbon capture available. We may be able to turn it in to tax Canada for a rebate year end. Look to fireplaces and fire pits

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