It is next-level hypocrisy that Ford has the audacity to tell Poilievre to work with Carny. Guinness Book of World Records level.
What alternate universe does Ford live in?
Oh wait, I get it. He doesn't actually expect this. But when Poilievre refuses, then Carny can start blaming him for not being a "Team Canada" player. This will provide Ford and Carny another place to point fingers - aside from Donald Trump for all their Liberal failures. That's beginning to wear thin.
Don't be misled into believing Ford became a Liberal out of some great admiration for Mark Carny. That's another con.
Ford was firmly in the Liberal camp, long before Carny came on the scene. For at least four years prior to the last election, Ford appeared in numerous venues beside Justin Trudeau. The images of him, standing just to the rear of, and smiling up at Mr Blackface/Dressup are telling.
Imagine that. Doug Ford actively supported that juvenile waste of the planet's oxygen.
James, Doug was never a Liberal on a lot of issues. He got rid of Kathleen Wynne’s wacko accounting rules, which showed Ontario running a surplus when it was actually running a deficit. He was part of the provincial challenge to the federal carbon tax, which probably would have won if the judges had been following the law. (I actually like the concept of a carbon tax but don’t think the Liberal backup tax is constitutional.) Doug is a practical politician and his chumminess with Trudeau and now with Carney probably reflects his view that the Liberals will be in power as long as he is premier so he better make nice with them. And the frightening thought is that he may well be right.
Andrew - let's agree to disagree on the carbon tax thing. Way too big an issue with far too many things to consider here, starting with Canada's mere 1.4% contribution to global GHG, etc, etc. I firmly believe that the Liberal version was simply a "tax", without any real 'carbon' justification.
As you suggest, Ford may be just bending with the political winds, but the question remains. How much effect did his campaigning for T******, then Carny, have on the election? His actions were not passive, and had he campaigned for his federal party, it's quite possible that our long, drawn out Liberal nightmare could be over. There are certainly enough swing votes in Ontario to do this. Politics does indeed, though, make for some pretty strange bedfellows.
The carbon tax issue is complicated and I think we both agree that the Liberal backup tax is terrible. I was greatly influenced by the paper that Ross McKitrick and the lovely Elmira Aliakbari wrote on the subject for the Financial Post, “The carbon tax beats the alternatives — if done right. Here are 6 ways to fix it.” I would recommend you read it if you have not already done so. I supported Doug in trying to get the Liberal backup tax declared unconstitutional. However, you can’t really get the federal government out of the carbon tax game and have a good regime. It really calls for a constitutional amendment to let the federal government at least set the standards. Of course, we are unlikely to get any such thing under Carney, the Green Grifter, or under Pierre, if he takes office.
Doug has been a disappointing premier in a lot of ways. I can’t understand why The Agenda with Steve Paikin is still on the air, a program that spouts a steady stream of leftist propaganda, with no respect for the truth. Maybe you are right, and Doug could have affected the outcome by supporting Pierre. Unfortunately, we can’t visit an alternative universe and see how things would have turned out if Doug had done things differently. It would make a great TV show though.
Thanks for the reasoned and reasonable response Andrew. We will probably continue to disagree on many things, but it's good to hear a different viewpoint from an informed and logical human being.
I don't see Ford as practical...he just knows who might get him the best deal. If he cared about Ont & Can he would have supported Pierre & that likely would have meant a victory for us. He pushed Carney's agenda & where has that gotten us, now that he got them elected?
Pudgy is a total phoney freak show. His insults towards Trump are in the way of a fair trade deal. He is a one man band but nobody is buying it exept Carney. He wanted to jump in Carneys' lap and snuggle.
So, we have 12 member Team Canada. We have non functional military, Coast Guard needs an overhaul, trade is at a standstill, immigration is in chaos, health care is a disaster. REMIND me why we need a Federal government at all? Why not revert to a Republic and fix this disaster we once knew as Canada.
Bill , I agree . Seeing that this will never come to fruition, this is My suggestion. We, as Canadians have gained a large amount of knowledge regarding Our Constitution and Way of life. Open the Con and change things according to knowledge. No wanna be or ideals , but actual knowledge. But that is a dream in My world.
Dougie and Carney are puppets, and they must do as they are told. Just like 80% of all political leaders are in Canada. As eastern Canada feels more and more pain from the 10 years of incompetent Liberal leadership, their chant of "Blame it all on Trump" is going to wear thin.
Central Canada is not accustom to feeling pain from Ottawa, and they won't put up with it for too long. Once EV mandates kick in on Jan 2026, people are going to freak. Canada will need a new election in the fall of 2026, or Canada might break apart.
September 15/2025 , first order of the day that our elects resume sitting call for a non confidence vote. We as Canadians can not afford another lieberal debt ridden government.
Hey Dougie boy, how come you and Carnage were not invited to the White House, you mentioned that you two could solve the world problems……the pair of you would be like a 2 watt light bulb in that highway tunnel you are dreaming about!
President Trump has passed you two on as a Biden and as a fat trans Harris….guess which one you are? Pierre has no time for either of you, just like DJT!
Its better than that, Marx Carnage didn't even get an invite to discussions on Ukraine....I guess thats what happens when you support Terrorism, have a crappy economy with declining productivity, refuse to negotiate fair trade deals [ditch supply management!!], and generally walk around with your nose in the air thinking your poop don't stink....
Right on.. Canada needs a reset. I don't know if Poliverre can do it. He's getting a bit stale too. His wife seems to be holding him up when he has some of the more able ministers with the smarts. He can't run a campaign so they better find someone better than Jenni Burn to help him.
So Doug Fraud wants PP to work with Carney, the guy who apparently, like his predecessor, is not exactly friends with the truth, totally oversold his abilities or simply lied all together about them and so far has accomplished nothing.
And what has Premier Fraud accomplished....???
Well he is excellent at pandering to Toronto, cannot deliver any of the promised transportation or infrastructure projects on time if at all and has made Wynne's Liberal spending look like amateur time...
OH.. And rather than deal with OntarWeOwe's problems would rather go on CNN and beat up on Trump and mess around with our largest trading partner.
... SO ...
Should PP work with Carney...???
OF COURSE where it makes sense and is to the benefit of all Canadians and where something will actually get done. All we have seen so far from Carney is no elbows, some knees, a lot of talk and vacation time and zero actually accomplished ... All signifying NOTHING.
Other than that Fraud wants PP to be like him which means something not Conservative and if anything a (not so) closet Liberal of (perhaps) the older variety.
NO THANKS Premier Fraud.
Those of us who are actually Conservative want PP to be Conservative not whatever it is you are.
Unbelievable....Carney doing a good job... Look at his record..... EV mandates in place in four months...Ford is siding with Carney and the liberals on the 100 % tariffs on Chinese EV's. This resulting in damage to our 43 billion dollar Canola industry which is vibrant and a money maker. The EV bandwagon is over with billions of dollars of Canadian Taxpayers dollars wasted ..the US has ended subsidies to EV industry , US manufacturers have all but abandoned production due to a total market collapse. And still, Ford and Carney are betting on and Industry with no buyers to buy votes in Ontario. On the flip side if Carney was so green and environmentally concerned, he would cancel the Chinese EV tariffs and let the market be the judge. Chinese EV's are typically much less expensive than American and Canadian made EV's (not that anybody really wants them) Hypocrisy at the highest level by both of the windbags.
Ford says Carney is doing this wonderful job? Where?? How?? I don't see anything wonderful happening. Everything has gotten worse & our country is falling down around us. Carney seems to have lost that sense of urgency. I'm really afraid of not having a country in four years time. We're tanking & fast.
Stay in your own lane Dougie and stop a** kissing Carney. You are not only embarrassing yourself, you are damaging the Conservative brand. Ontario has had Red Tory premiers before, but none that are as openly Liberal and progressive as Dougie. Just have to look at his policies or lack of, spend, spend ,spend, with nothing to show but red ink. Health care and Education are in shambles and he continues following the failed policies of his Liberal buddies in Ottawa. Waster!
I fault the heavily subsidized left wing Canadian legacy media for not reporting the serious head injury Doug Ford suffered sometime in the lost years of his life. If not a head injury then was it the picture with the goat, was it the millions paid under the table, what could cause a Conservative to go over to the dark side? People of Ontario will soon know the effects of Ford as Ford the company leaves Canada due to net zero regulations that he and is clumsy buddy Mr. Carney green grifter ruin what is left of the auto industry that they poured billions of taxpayer $$$$$$ into.
I'm sure we'll find a briefcase of cash exchanged hands somewhere around this past March....likely via a "consulting contract" or a "charitable foundation" that spends $1 a year on donations and $10mm a year on salaries for staff...like the Trudeau foundation....
It is next-level hypocrisy that Ford has the audacity to tell Poilievre to work with Carny. Guinness Book of World Records level.
What alternate universe does Ford live in?
Oh wait, I get it. He doesn't actually expect this. But when Poilievre refuses, then Carny can start blaming him for not being a "Team Canada" player. This will provide Ford and Carny another place to point fingers - aside from Donald Trump for all their Liberal failures. That's beginning to wear thin.
Don't be misled into believing Ford became a Liberal out of some great admiration for Mark Carny. That's another con.
Ford was firmly in the Liberal camp, long before Carny came on the scene. For at least four years prior to the last election, Ford appeared in numerous venues beside Justin Trudeau. The images of him, standing just to the rear of, and smiling up at Mr Blackface/Dressup are telling.
Imagine that. Doug Ford actively supported that juvenile waste of the planet's oxygen.
James Turner for Premier of Ont.!
James, Doug was never a Liberal on a lot of issues. He got rid of Kathleen Wynne’s wacko accounting rules, which showed Ontario running a surplus when it was actually running a deficit. He was part of the provincial challenge to the federal carbon tax, which probably would have won if the judges had been following the law. (I actually like the concept of a carbon tax but don’t think the Liberal backup tax is constitutional.) Doug is a practical politician and his chumminess with Trudeau and now with Carney probably reflects his view that the Liberals will be in power as long as he is premier so he better make nice with them. And the frightening thought is that he may well be right.
Andrew - let's agree to disagree on the carbon tax thing. Way too big an issue with far too many things to consider here, starting with Canada's mere 1.4% contribution to global GHG, etc, etc. I firmly believe that the Liberal version was simply a "tax", without any real 'carbon' justification.
As you suggest, Ford may be just bending with the political winds, but the question remains. How much effect did his campaigning for T******, then Carny, have on the election? His actions were not passive, and had he campaigned for his federal party, it's quite possible that our long, drawn out Liberal nightmare could be over. There are certainly enough swing votes in Ontario to do this. Politics does indeed, though, make for some pretty strange bedfellows.
Thank you for your reply, James.
The carbon tax issue is complicated and I think we both agree that the Liberal backup tax is terrible. I was greatly influenced by the paper that Ross McKitrick and the lovely Elmira Aliakbari wrote on the subject for the Financial Post, “The carbon tax beats the alternatives — if done right. Here are 6 ways to fix it.” I would recommend you read it if you have not already done so. I supported Doug in trying to get the Liberal backup tax declared unconstitutional. However, you can’t really get the federal government out of the carbon tax game and have a good regime. It really calls for a constitutional amendment to let the federal government at least set the standards. Of course, we are unlikely to get any such thing under Carney, the Green Grifter, or under Pierre, if he takes office.
Doug has been a disappointing premier in a lot of ways. I can’t understand why The Agenda with Steve Paikin is still on the air, a program that spouts a steady stream of leftist propaganda, with no respect for the truth. Maybe you are right, and Doug could have affected the outcome by supporting Pierre. Unfortunately, we can’t visit an alternative universe and see how things would have turned out if Doug had done things differently. It would make a great TV show though.
Thanks for the reasoned and reasonable response Andrew. We will probably continue to disagree on many things, but it's good to hear a different viewpoint from an informed and logical human being.
I don't see Ford as practical...he just knows who might get him the best deal. If he cared about Ont & Can he would have supported Pierre & that likely would have meant a victory for us. He pushed Carney's agenda & where has that gotten us, now that he got them elected?
Dear Doug, go fly a kite.
Air Canada kite.
Pudgy is a total phoney freak show. His insults towards Trump are in the way of a fair trade deal. He is a one man band but nobody is buying it exept Carney. He wanted to jump in Carneys' lap and snuggle.
So, we have 12 member Team Canada. We have non functional military, Coast Guard needs an overhaul, trade is at a standstill, immigration is in chaos, health care is a disaster. REMIND me why we need a Federal government at all? Why not revert to a Republic and fix this disaster we once knew as Canada.
At this juncture I have no problem with the Republic idea. It certainly beats staying on our current trajectory.
Bill , I agree . Seeing that this will never come to fruition, this is My suggestion. We, as Canadians have gained a large amount of knowledge regarding Our Constitution and Way of life. Open the Con and change things according to knowledge. No wanna be or ideals , but actual knowledge. But that is a dream in My world.
Your dream world certainly beats Carney's. His is taking the entire country down.
Dougie and Carney are puppets, and they must do as they are told. Just like 80% of all political leaders are in Canada. As eastern Canada feels more and more pain from the 10 years of incompetent Liberal leadership, their chant of "Blame it all on Trump" is going to wear thin.
Central Canada is not accustom to feeling pain from Ottawa, and they won't put up with it for too long. Once EV mandates kick in on Jan 2026, people are going to freak. Canada will need a new election in the fall of 2026, or Canada might break apart.
September 15/2025 , first order of the day that our elects resume sitting call for a non confidence vote. We as Canadians can not afford another lieberal debt ridden government.
For the love of all that is decent Doug, just put your red shirt on
Orange Gerry, orange....
You got me there :-)
Doug Ford is a useless, spineless shape shifting political leech. I can not stand to here him open his treasonous mouth.
I'd swear his last thought came out of a different orifice....
No wonder I did not vote the last time for Doug. Forever PC person but he has really turned me off. He is a Liberal in PC clothing.
Go Ontario New Blue!!
What to do with these Liberals being elected as Conservatives. Undermining the voters.
Hey Dougie boy, how come you and Carnage were not invited to the White House, you mentioned that you two could solve the world problems……the pair of you would be like a 2 watt light bulb in that highway tunnel you are dreaming about!
President Trump has passed you two on as a Biden and as a fat trans Harris….guess which one you are? Pierre has no time for either of you, just like DJT!
Its better than that, Marx Carnage didn't even get an invite to discussions on Ukraine....I guess thats what happens when you support Terrorism, have a crappy economy with declining productivity, refuse to negotiate fair trade deals [ditch supply management!!], and generally walk around with your nose in the air thinking your poop don't stink....
Right on.. Canada needs a reset. I don't know if Poliverre can do it. He's getting a bit stale too. His wife seems to be holding him up when he has some of the more able ministers with the smarts. He can't run a campaign so they better find someone better than Jenni Burn to help him.
So Doug Fraud wants PP to work with Carney, the guy who apparently, like his predecessor, is not exactly friends with the truth, totally oversold his abilities or simply lied all together about them and so far has accomplished nothing.
And what has Premier Fraud accomplished....???
Well he is excellent at pandering to Toronto, cannot deliver any of the promised transportation or infrastructure projects on time if at all and has made Wynne's Liberal spending look like amateur time...
OH.. And rather than deal with OntarWeOwe's problems would rather go on CNN and beat up on Trump and mess around with our largest trading partner.
... SO ...
Should PP work with Carney...???
OF COURSE where it makes sense and is to the benefit of all Canadians and where something will actually get done. All we have seen so far from Carney is no elbows, some knees, a lot of talk and vacation time and zero actually accomplished ... All signifying NOTHING.
Other than that Fraud wants PP to be like him which means something not Conservative and if anything a (not so) closet Liberal of (perhaps) the older variety.
NO THANKS Premier Fraud.
Those of us who are actually Conservative want PP to be Conservative not whatever it is you are.
Unbelievable....Carney doing a good job... Look at his record..... EV mandates in place in four months...Ford is siding with Carney and the liberals on the 100 % tariffs on Chinese EV's. This resulting in damage to our 43 billion dollar Canola industry which is vibrant and a money maker. The EV bandwagon is over with billions of dollars of Canadian Taxpayers dollars wasted ..the US has ended subsidies to EV industry , US manufacturers have all but abandoned production due to a total market collapse. And still, Ford and Carney are betting on and Industry with no buyers to buy votes in Ontario. On the flip side if Carney was so green and environmentally concerned, he would cancel the Chinese EV tariffs and let the market be the judge. Chinese EV's are typically much less expensive than American and Canadian made EV's (not that anybody really wants them) Hypocrisy at the highest level by both of the windbags.
Ford says Carney is doing this wonderful job? Where?? How?? I don't see anything wonderful happening. Everything has gotten worse & our country is falling down around us. Carney seems to have lost that sense of urgency. I'm really afraid of not having a country in four years time. We're tanking & fast.
The standards are apparently lower than all of us are thinking - by not wearing Blackface, Marx is doing a 'great job'....
Do the opposite of whatever that fat bufoon say.
Conservative in a liberal cloak
Stay in your own lane Dougie and stop a** kissing Carney. You are not only embarrassing yourself, you are damaging the Conservative brand. Ontario has had Red Tory premiers before, but none that are as openly Liberal and progressive as Dougie. Just have to look at his policies or lack of, spend, spend ,spend, with nothing to show but red ink. Health care and Education are in shambles and he continues following the failed policies of his Liberal buddies in Ottawa. Waster!
I fault the heavily subsidized left wing Canadian legacy media for not reporting the serious head injury Doug Ford suffered sometime in the lost years of his life. If not a head injury then was it the picture with the goat, was it the millions paid under the table, what could cause a Conservative to go over to the dark side? People of Ontario will soon know the effects of Ford as Ford the company leaves Canada due to net zero regulations that he and is clumsy buddy Mr. Carney green grifter ruin what is left of the auto industry that they poured billions of taxpayer $$$$$$ into.
I'm sure we'll find a briefcase of cash exchanged hands somewhere around this past March....likely via a "consulting contract" or a "charitable foundation" that spends $1 a year on donations and $10mm a year on salaries for staff...like the Trudeau foundation....