To convict them would have been a definite miscarriage of justice. That woman definitely gave consent and this verdict is a wake up call that all women don't have to be believed. What are men supposed to do??? Read between the lines. Physic analyze her. Give me a break. I think she was after more money.
This was a criminal trial. The civil suit was already settled. It was the Crown that made the decision to prosecute criminally (after 2 years!). Sounds like it was a poor decision.
We don’t really know what happened. The judge decided. But here’s the thing, no she didn’t have to go. But look even if she wanted to go it was wrong on so many levels. 5 against 1. How is that fair? There are occasions in our lives that the day that started hopeful and innocent can spin out of control. I had a me too incident that gutted me. I wasn’t expecting this incident. I had my first sexual encounter with a boy that played jr. football. We were dating sort of. There was a bonfire party at a local park, with beer the usual. There was a girl groupie that had made the rounds of the players, anyone that wanted a good time had Mary. When I arrived at the party after parking my car I walked up a low hill to meet my friends. I was totally sober. All of a sudden very unexpectedly I was surrounded by the football team at least 12-14 men. They started to push up against me and altogether they pushed hard chanting Mary Mary Mary. My name wasn’t Mary! They keep pushing beer flying out of the cans soaking me, I tried but couldn’t push my way free they were too strong. I can still see their faces, misshapen and dark. Maree, Maree, Maree….the chanting growing louder. I realized towards the end this boy who I liked had told the whole football team that he had slept with me. A stupid virgin almost 18. Someone who just wanted to be part of a group. Finally one of the players said “she’s had enough”, and they broke the circle. I swiftly ran down to my car. A player followed me. He was standing by my car beer in hand. He said to me, aren’t the stars great tonight? What? What are you talking about. I told him quite firmly that they could all go fuck themselves jumped in and drove away.
I never saw any of those people again. Including six girls that I had been in a friend group with, one of which I knew since Grade 5. I asked her why she didn’t help me, she said, oh we thought it was funny. I never saw or spoke with her again, my best friend for ten years. It was sad so very sad. There was no sexual touching from what I remember. Just pushing, pushing from all sides. To me it was disturbing and abusive. I pushed this incident out of my mind until the me too movement and this memory came flooding back. I realized the effect on me anxiety and depression, since I was 18 years old, but I didn’t connect it to the incident. Why had they done this? I found out later this little creep I was dating was mad because he wanted me to ask my Dad to get him in a First Responders program, I wouldn’t ask my Dad because we were taught to work hard for what we got, no nepotism. I went to a me too protest in 30 below weather in March. What I’m trying to say is, these random incidents can happen before we can stop them.
I don’t blame EM I blame those five entitled little creeps that abused her …. raped her. Even if she said yes they were wrong to abuse and take advantage of her.
Consent isn’t necessary, she got into a situation that turned out of control. One of boys should have helped her. None of them had any empathy or guts to stop this rape from happening. I think they are totally guilty and I hope this follows them forever. I don’t feel sorry for anyone but EM, justice failed her, the cult of hockey won’t be stopped.
In this day and age in Canada if there was even a 1% chance these young men were guilty they would have been locked up faster than you can say Canada is finished.
To convict them would have been a definite miscarriage of justice. That woman definitely gave consent and this verdict is a wake up call that all women don't have to be believed. What are men supposed to do??? Read between the lines. Physic analyze her. Give me a break. I think she was after more money.
This was a criminal trial. The civil suit was already settled. It was the Crown that made the decision to prosecute criminally (after 2 years!). Sounds like it was a poor decision.
This is incredulous,🤨, these boys are guilty of gang rape whether she agreed or not. The judge just gave kids a pass to do this again.
Final verdict. The judge says based on all the evidence they are not guilty.
Yes means yes.
and no means no.
There didn’t seem to be a no
Whether she agreed or not?
That’s incredulous!!
She did
not have to go to their room!
Then wait all these years??
We don’t really know what happened. The judge decided. But here’s the thing, no she didn’t have to go. But look even if she wanted to go it was wrong on so many levels. 5 against 1. How is that fair? There are occasions in our lives that the day that started hopeful and innocent can spin out of control. I had a me too incident that gutted me. I wasn’t expecting this incident. I had my first sexual encounter with a boy that played jr. football. We were dating sort of. There was a bonfire party at a local park, with beer the usual. There was a girl groupie that had made the rounds of the players, anyone that wanted a good time had Mary. When I arrived at the party after parking my car I walked up a low hill to meet my friends. I was totally sober. All of a sudden very unexpectedly I was surrounded by the football team at least 12-14 men. They started to push up against me and altogether they pushed hard chanting Mary Mary Mary. My name wasn’t Mary! They keep pushing beer flying out of the cans soaking me, I tried but couldn’t push my way free they were too strong. I can still see their faces, misshapen and dark. Maree, Maree, Maree….the chanting growing louder. I realized towards the end this boy who I liked had told the whole football team that he had slept with me. A stupid virgin almost 18. Someone who just wanted to be part of a group. Finally one of the players said “she’s had enough”, and they broke the circle. I swiftly ran down to my car. A player followed me. He was standing by my car beer in hand. He said to me, aren’t the stars great tonight? What? What are you talking about. I told him quite firmly that they could all go fuck themselves jumped in and drove away.
I never saw any of those people again. Including six girls that I had been in a friend group with, one of which I knew since Grade 5. I asked her why she didn’t help me, she said, oh we thought it was funny. I never saw or spoke with her again, my best friend for ten years. It was sad so very sad. There was no sexual touching from what I remember. Just pushing, pushing from all sides. To me it was disturbing and abusive. I pushed this incident out of my mind until the me too movement and this memory came flooding back. I realized the effect on me anxiety and depression, since I was 18 years old, but I didn’t connect it to the incident. Why had they done this? I found out later this little creep I was dating was mad because he wanted me to ask my Dad to get him in a First Responders program, I wouldn’t ask my Dad because we were taught to work hard for what we got, no nepotism. I went to a me too protest in 30 below weather in March. What I’m trying to say is, these random incidents can happen before we can stop them.
I don’t blame EM I blame those five entitled little creeps that abused her …. raped her. Even if she said yes they were wrong to abuse and take advantage of her.
Consent isn’t necessary, she got into a situation that turned out of control. One of boys should have helped her. None of them had any empathy or guts to stop this rape from happening. I think they are totally guilty and I hope this follows them forever. I don’t feel sorry for anyone but EM, justice failed her, the cult of hockey won’t be stopped.
Sorry for the long post.
and again and again and again. Money talks.
In this day and age in Canada if there was even a 1% chance these young men were guilty they would have been locked up faster than you can say Canada is finished.